Campaign for Lower Petrol Prices

[aruif]

hiya, i'm a newbie this thread caught my eye, even though it's not about film and that's why i joined, but anyway! :)

I try and b*y from whoever is cheapest! and it's never those two companies.

i'm hardly able to go out anywhere these days simply because i can't afford the fuel or travel costs anymore.

i hope everyone can pull together and make somethng happen. petrol's gone up by so much, so quickly.

[Razam]

Yep saw this campaign last year, but the problem is still the same - even if the campaign worked and fuel prices dropped, there is only a few pennies (per litre) it would be able to drop. Coz you have to add up the govt. tax, wholesale cost, import cost, forecourt maintanence etc... before you see that per litre the major companies are making a few pennies profit per litre.

The argument against this is that supermarkets are able to offer lower petrol costs, why can't the main companies. My argument would be, that supermarkets are selling at a near zero profit level, as they are banking on people coming to fill-up & do their shopping at the same time. kind of like negative-profit marketing. The real campaign should be over the fuel-tax, rather than purely on fuel-price, as that is where difference could be made.

Additionaly supermarket petrol is of a poorer quality, compared to main dealers - my dad works for one of the big petrol quality testing companies, and he told me never to b*y petrol from the supermarkets as the quality is poor.

[Rainey]

http://www.fairfueluk.com/

This was just on BBC Breakfast, there is a petition which will be given to the government, so far has 41,000 signatures to avoid further duty rises. The current tax on a litre of unleaded in 80P!!!! 21p VAT 59p Fuel Duty!! The retailer only gets 5p per litre and the cost of the fuel alone is only 42p per litre.

[prettyxcool]

I should have headed this "campaign for lower fuel taxes"! It is atrocious how much we need to p*y in this country.

[funthing29]

Additionaly supermarket petrol is of a poorer quality, compared to main dealers - my dad works for one of the big petrol quality testing companies, and he told me never to b*y petrol from the supermarkets as the quality is poor.

My dad worked as an oil trader for over 30 years and he said the supermarket petrol stations b*y their fuel from the same source as the main dealers - some of the main dealers even sell to the supermarkets. I don't see how it can be poorer quality, it's not like they drill it themselves!

[prettyxcool]

It's cheap because they're using it as a loss leader to get people into their stores.

From What Car?

Q: Is it true that the fuel sold at supermarket petrol stations is not of the same quality as that as you would b*y from a dedicated petrol station?

A: According to the Petrol Retailers Association, there is no difference between the standard petrol you b*y from supermarkets or franchised petrol stations. In most cases the petrol and diesel is even produced at the same refinery and delivered in the same trucks.

The exception to this is specialist fuels, such as Shell’s Optimax and BP’s Ultimate. In their case, the fuel is enhanced with additives, which produce that brand’s particular properties.

[Razam]

It's cheap because they're using it as a loss leader to get people into their stores.

From What Car?

Q: Is it true that the fuel sold at supermarket petrol stations is not of the same quality as that as you would b*y from a dedicated petrol station?

A: According to the Petrol Retailers Association, there is no difference between the standard petrol you b*y from supermarkets or franchised petrol stations. In most cases the petrol and diesel is even produced at the same refinery and delivered in the same trucks.

The exception to this is specialist fuels, such as Shell’s Optimax and BP’s Ultimate. In their case, the fuel is enhanced with additives, which produce that brand’s particular properties.

hmm... I'll have to show this to my dad & see what he says.

[Razam]

http://www.fairfueluk.com/

This was just on BBC Breakfast, there is a petition which will be given to the government, so far has 41,000 signatures to avoid further duty rises. The current tax on a litre of unleaded in 80P!!!! 21p VAT 59p Fuel Duty!! The retailer only gets 5p per litre and the cost of the fuel alone is only 42p per litre.

They should setup a facebook/twitter etc. page & get a (popular) celeb to promote it

[Rainey]

http://www.fairfueluk.com/

This was just on BBC Breakfast, there is a petition which will be given to the government, so far has 41,000 signatures to avoid further duty rises. The current tax on a litre of unleaded in 80P!!!! 21p VAT 59p Fuel Duty!! The retailer only gets 5p per litre and the cost of the fuel alone is only 42p per litre.

They should setup a facebook/twitter etc. page & get a (popular) celeb to promote it

Facebook group here

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fair-Fuel ... 0925003133

Twitter here

http://twitter.com/#!/FairFuelUK

Quentin Wilson from Fifth Gear is the face of it, not sure I would exactly call him popular but is known I guess.

[docb]

Happy (obviously) to see lower fuel taxes. But if the tax is reduced the deficit has to be found from somewhere else - where?