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Re: Doctor Who

#151 Post by canadian_turtle » Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:31 pm

ISMADDER wrote:Glad a white Male Actor has been casted as Doctor Who. You can't cast a Women as Doctor who and a Non White Person. If the Made the IRON LADY, ALI or MALCOLM X with Daniel Day Lewis in the Lead role there would be up-roar!!!!
The difference being that those are based on real-life people, which leads to certain expectations. The Doctor is a) fictional and b) it's been proven that Time Lords can regenerate into another gender ;)
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Re: Doctor Who

#152 Post by The Sparrow » Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:33 pm

ISMADDER wrote:Glad a white Male Actor has been casted as Doctor Who. You can't cast a Women as Doctor who and a Non White Person. If the Made the IRON LADY, ALI or MALCOLM X with Daniel Day Lewis in the Lead role there would be up-roar!!!!
You do realise that ALL the people you mention as examples are real people. We know what they looked like, their gender and skin colour? :roll:
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#153 Post by Beate » Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:42 pm

ISMADDER wrote:Glad a white Male Actor has been casted as Doctor Who. You can't cast a Women as Doctor who and a Non White Person. If the Made the IRON LADY, ALI or MALCOLM X with Daniel Day Lewis in the Lead role there would be up-roar!!!!
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#154 Post by Sunny Saver » Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:45 pm

I don't watch Doctor Who and I don't care who is or is not the Doctor, but I find the comparison difficult, the Iron Lady was about Mrs Thatcher, so of course a woman's going to be cast in that role. Likewise, Malcolm X is about someone black, as is Ali.

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#155 Post by raj101 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:50 pm

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TheOnes wrote: Honestly, this line of thinking is precisely why i didn't want a female Doctor. Everyone is pressuring the BBC for a female or a black Doctor because its "PC" and "Times have changed". They keep claiming that the BBC is Racist or Sexist if they don't buck the trend.
I objected to ruling out women completely. If you disagree with this, it is your right to do.
I'd prefer to pick the right person for the role, but clearly by your own admission you want the right 'man' even though you want to claim you mean the 'right person'. don't feel bad about your view..
And herein lies my point in a nutshell. All of these arguments "for" diversity extend to nothing more than guilt tripping and peer pressure. Saying if they dont adhere to a particular view then obvipusly there is some innate prejudice within them. Im sorry, i am all for a woman or person of colour ib the tardis, but i seriously dont like the reasons and arm bending that everyone is putting forward for this same argument.

I'd rather they stick with a man for the right reasons, than go for diversity for the wrong reasons.
I am sure you don't mean that you wont go for diversity for the right reasons. Diversity includes, not excludes, certain peoples. Past casting precedents are what are excluding people, not diversity. Diversity is not excluding anyone, its draws from a wider pool of talent, so it only increases the chances of getting the best actor. Moffat's exclusion principle does the opposite.

Well an old man is what a doctor is historically. Equally fictional characters such as Sherlock, Watson, Doctor Jekyll and others have been played by a woman. Why exclude a genderless alien? I guess there was a time when even a female going to med school was unthinkable, but forward 100 years and now Martha gets stick for an equally odd reason.

Yet I recognise a historical precedent set by previous male casts has some weight, but its not the be all and end all for him unto eternity. Lets pretend that YOU are the Timelord and that you have a Tardis, with matching fez, suit plus bag of jellybabies. Zip forward to the 22nd century and can you with confidence tell me that there wont have been a plethora of females in the role of the Doctor by then? Perhaps the 22nd century fans might assume that you were the assistant (me assuming of course that you are a man) until you pull out your jelly babies to prove them wrong.

Yes hypothetical, but pretty certainly it will happen at some point. We never dreamed of having a 26 year old playing him once. Now a young man is the current trend rather than the hypothesis.

Theres no doubt that the role of a doctor and thus 'The Doctor' was male dominated in the 20th century. But breaking moulds was the only thing that allowed a DW reboot at all. The show wont even last another 10 years without fresh ideas. Yet this is pretty much the rubbish that Moffat said, 'never ever'. Capaldi is spot on this time, mind you, hes Tennants uncle lovechild to Matt Smith (Tardis and modern medicine permitting).
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Re: Doctor Who

#156 Post by ISMADDER » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:10 pm

Thats My Opinion, I feel the same about James Bond !!!

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#157 Post by andrews » Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:35 pm

So pleased that Peter Capaldi is the new Doctor Who. When does the new series start?
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Re: Doctor Who

#158 Post by canadian_turtle » Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:37 pm

andrews wrote:So pleased that Peter Capaldi is the new Doctor Who. When does the new series start?
First there's the 50th anniversary episode in November and the Christmas special in December, then the new series next year.
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Re: Doctor Who

#159 Post by andrews » Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:41 pm

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andrews wrote:So pleased that Peter Capaldi is the new Doctor Who. When does the new series start?
First there's the 50th anniversary episode in November and the Christmas special in December, then the new series next year.
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Re: Doctor Who

#160 Post by alythonian » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:22 pm

I find Matt Smith really creepy, so I'm glad I'll see less of him.
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