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Re: Pacific Rim

#71 Post by cascy101 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:53 pm

LondonCityNights wrote:
cascy101 wrote:Yep, that's why it's only to be watched with brain switched off and allowing everything to just happen! It was fun for what it was.

But, I think it's still OK to have questions, there's nothing wrong with wondering about the likelihood of things and what could happen. After all, aren't these futuristic films supposed to be based on what people suppose and think could be possible in the future based on todays techonology/information (obv. this film is very far fetched). It's still nice to know realities though.
No, God no! Don't turn your brain off! Ask questions - but ask useful ones like the ones I listed above. What is the message of the film and how does the cinematography, sound design and narrative contribute to that message?

You've got to turn your brain firmly ON in a cinema, dammit - no matter what you're seeing.
Yes def I can concede on that, but questionable technical aspects, will almost always be the first thing to throw me off a film, before any psychological or emotional aspects (apart from laughable acting!), and questions on scientific accuracy should not be any less valid, even if mine are just for curiosities sake. ;).
The debate is very interesting!

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Re: Pacific Rim

#72 Post by raj101 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:29 pm

its really just an live action anime, so it seems churlish to critique the physics of it yet give a free pass to every futuristic anime ever made. It makes for interesting 25 page debates on geeky scientific forums mind you, as someone tries to prove something mathematically from first principles.
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Re: Pacific Rim

#73 Post by scootermcc » Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:48 pm

Sorry I'm in the this film was a pile of dross camp.

Here's my review of Pacific Grim

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Re: Pacific Rim

#74 Post by The Sparrow » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:03 pm

Didn't we see just how much effort they put into making the robots move though? Surely science came into that? I agree that it did seem odd they never seemed to cause a tsunami though.

Plus [spoiler]who on earth thought it would be a good idea to build big walls? Like they would never have the strength to smash a measly wall down lol[/spoiler]

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Re: Pacific Rim

#75 Post by caitlinmorton » Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:35 am

I feel that I have to point out to TheOnes that the film still had a cohesive story and were it to have all the things you wanted, it would have easily been at least three hours long. That would be fine, except the pacing for the first hour as it is felt like two, and thus the film would have likely seriously dragged. The thing is, you still need the monsters and the battles, since the story is about the pacific coastlines under seige, and upping the ante by making them come more and more frequently gives the films its stakes.

I also agree fully with whoever made the point about technology in the future not being something we could understand, as in theory it doesn't exist yet, or if it does we probably don't know about it because its early stages.

I agree that setting the first landing of the Kaiju in present day and the main events of the film in 2025 (remember they skipped ahead five years after the first battle) is far fetched technology-wise, and even ten years later would have been better.

Because of this, I have no problems with the oxygen question (I too remember the many times they mentioned it throughout the film), and can attribute most technological questions to that (they are robots, yes, but they are robots built to fight Kaiju IN WATER, and thus presumably are built accordingly, and also to be under water in order to give the best possible chance of survival to its pilots should the Jaeger be knocked down and submerged, if nothing else), but as to why the water displacement doesn't cause a tsunami, I do still have that question.

My friend and I were asking each other questions about the film on the escalator down afterwards and the man next to us told us we were reading too much into it. I got the feeling he wasn't thrilled with it and didn't want us to waste our time more than he didn't want us to ask questions. We ignored him and continued asking questions because no matter how you feel about a film, asking questions is healthy. We're about two months away from having a Masters in the subject also, so its kind of our job to learn from other films in order to be successful at making our own.

I enjoyed the film much more than expected, it was not a great film by any means, the acting was at times laughable (Charlie Hunnam's Newcastle came through whenever he said the word "thought", which was quite often) and the script was awful, but the story was cohesive and it worked, the CGI was good, and it was definitely a new take on aliens.

Good to see a healthy debate though, as you both had valid points.

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Re: Pacific Rim

#76 Post by ISMADDER » Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:14 pm

loved it A Big Blockbuster!!! Pop Corn Flick !!! Nothing to taxing !!!!

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Re: Pacific Rim

#77 Post by soonforgotten » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:51 pm

I wasn't a fan of this at all. I really do expect more from del Toro.

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Re: Pacific Rim

#78 Post by blazed » Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:25 pm

This movie delivered exactly what I thought it would deliver from the trailer, nothing more, nothing less.

This is one those CGI / special effects movies pack with action and fun, it is quite obvious that the story line was secondary to everything else and rightly so it was.

Yes... the nuke didn't set off a tsunami wave, the governments didn't fund the robots and they stupidly preferred a giant wall, the movie had weak actors, weak character development and shitty one liners, but who cares in a movie like this? I would have preferred these scenes to be replaced with more fights to be honest.

It would have been great if the jets, helicopters, tanks and soldiers continued to fight along side the robots but I guess this would have been really complicated scenes to create from development point.

I think the people who didn't like this movie knowingly went into something that wasn't their cup of tea, and then complained about it, they expected more than Monsters vs Robots packed with senseless action and fun with guaranteed crappy one liners.

Some of the fight musics rocked! (especially the one where Gipsy came into the city with a weapon)

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Re: Pacific Rim

#79 Post by Jayman » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:42 am

I must be in the minority as I didn't find the first hour to be slow at all. To be completely honest, I would rather watch the first dialogue-driven hour again than the last. Still, overall it was quite enjoyable. I did feel that they could've explored the whole mind-melding concept a bit more (imagine the possibilities) and had slightly more coherent action sequences, but for what it was and for what I expected, it delivered the goods.

PS. Spectacular 3D and fantastic use of the 70mm IMAX format. Loved the score.
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Re: Pacific Rim

#80 Post by dfletch08 » Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:49 pm

Pacific Rim"JOB" One of the worst film's of the year!

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